SaarFighter
2005-03-03, 13:27:32
Sers.
Ich hab ein Elitegroup K7S5A pro mit 512Mb SD-Ram und einem 1900+ (Palomino)
Laut Hersteller nimmt das Board Prozessoren bis 2400+.
Mein Vater hat nen 2600+ (Barton), den ich gestern mal getestet haben auf meinem Board.
Angenmmen wurde er, aber er wurde nur mit ~1000MHz angezeigt.
Giebt es eine Möglichkeit, den Prozzi mit seiner vollen Taktung auf meinem Board zum laufen zu kriegen?
THX
MfG
SaarFighter
predprey
2005-03-03, 13:49:54
sollte er, falls die CPU einen fsb von 133 hat ... (mit oc bios sollten auch 166 bis 200 drin sein ;) ).
Im mom hat sic hdas Bios nur umgestellt und steht auf 100:100. Stell einfach 133:133. Achte aber immer darauf das die syncron laufen, also 133:133 und nicht 133:100 oder so ^^.
Versuchs mal
SaarFighter
2005-03-03, 14:27:21
glaub nicht.
Mit meinem 1900+ (133) hatte ich 1,6 GHz.
Wenn ich den 2600+ (100) einsetze, habe ich 1GHz
Wenn ich also mit dem 2600+ auf 133 gehe, komme ich doch nur auf 1,3Ghz, oder?
predprey
2005-03-03, 15:45:57
hmm, einfach mal testen und wäre schonmal mehr als u jetzt hast ;)
Aber dann bleibt dir nur noch die lösung eines oc bioses ... aber dummerweise kannst du bei dem Board zwar dann 166 auswählen nur er boote nicht damit ... also nur software seitig zu machen! Dazu kommt, dass du bei 166:166 auch neuen ram brauchst ^^ , ansosnten vershcwendest du nur performance ...
Also entweder so ^^, oder bleib lieber bei deiner alten CPU und geniesse die Performance und übertackte die einwenig ( je nachdem was dein Ram mitmacht).
Hier nochmal ein auszu aus der Seite : K7S5A motherboard forum (http://p199.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum)
5. Overclocking
DDR bus speeds explained
When an AMD Socket A CPU is said to run for example 266MHz FSB, it is technically not running 266MHz, it's running exactly half that frequency,133MHz. But because the bus transfers data twice per clock cycle, the actual bandwidth of the FSB bus is twice as high, and it is therefore called a 266MHz bus.
The same goes for DDR memory. For example: PC2100 DDR memory physically runs 133MHz, but because it can transfer data twice per clock, it's often called "266DDR".
Relationships between FSB, PCI and AGP
The FSB, PCI and AGP buses on the K7S5A are linked with each others using clock dividers. When you change the FSB, the other two are also changed, using the following formulas:
FSB 100 to 110: PCI=FSB/3 AGP=2xPCI
FSB 112 to 147: PCI=FSB/4 AGP=2xPCI
FSB 150 to 166: PCI=FSB/5 AGP=2xPCI
For example: If you are running 143 FSB, your PCI frequency is 143/4=35.75MHz and your AGP frequency is 35.75x2=71.50MHz
FSB overclockning (with honey X OC bioses)
If you flash one of the OC bioses available in the forum header, you will be able to overclock the FSB, thus also overclocking the CPU. The following FSB / MEM settings are available in the OC bioses:
100 / 100 MHz
107 / 107 MHz
110 / 110 MHz
112 / 112 MHz
124 / 124 MHz
133 / 133 MHz
138 / 138 MHz
100 / 133 MHz
133 / 100 MHz
133 / 166 MHz
166 / 125 MHz (Not bootable)
143 / 143 MHz
147 / 147 MHz
150 / 150 MHz
166 / 166 MHz (Not bootable)
200 / 200 MHz (Not bootable)
Note that because the OC bioses' 100 / 100 setting is actually 100.9 / 100.9 and the 133 / 133 setting is actually 133.9 / 133.9, your Athlon XP may show up as the next model in the line, for example: An Athlon XP 1700+ running with the 133 / 133 setting will show up as an Athlon XP 1800+ even though it is only running at 1700+ speed plus a few MHz. Don't worry about it, the model name is only cosmetic, it's the real clock frequency that counts.
The reason the OC bioses use a little higher 100 / 100 and 133 / 133 settings is that the standard 100 / 100 and 133 / 133 settings are actually underclocked a little.
There is only a certain number of supported FSB settings on the board (a hardware limitation, not a bios limitation), that is why the list above looks like it does.
By the way, you should stick to the sync FSB/MEM settings (100/100, 133/133, 143/143 etc.). The sync modes perform better than the async modes on the K7S5A / K7S5A Pro. For example, 100/100 performs better than 100/133.
FSB overclockning (with software)
You can change the FSB from within Windows with a few different software utilities. The following shows how to do it with the program CPUCooL. You don't have to use an OC bios to change FSB with software, but note that the machine will only run with the software selected FSB speed until you reboot the computer. For a "permanent" OC, you have to flash an OC bios.
Also note that the only way to reach 166/166 on the K7S5A is by software overclocking. Due to a PLL bug, it can't boot at 166/166.
You can download CPUCooL here.
When you are installing it, set it so that it loads with every Windows start-up.
Reboot
First thing it asks when it comes up for the first time is "Which mobo & Model"
You need to select the motherboard brand, version etc., before you can use it to change the FSB, which is what we want to do, first and foremost
Your "Mainboard" is ECS and "Mainboard type" is K7S5A...(Doh!),
Your PLL is the ICS type: 9248(ABC)F-199... you can check that by reading the #'s on your PLL chip (go back to Podien's site for info on how to locate it on your mobo)
Now, click "Functions"> "Change front side bus/change CPU speed"
Start clicking on the tiny little 'up' arrow, to the right of "Tray frequency 1" until it shows an FSB of 137.3/ PCI 34.4 / RAM 137.3
Go to "Tray frequency 2" and take it up to 142.7/35.7/142.7
Go to "Tray frequency 3" and take it up to 146.7/36.7/146.7
Forget about entering the 150/30/150 option in the next line because the ONLY way to get to a 150 FSB is straight from an OVERCLOCKING bios set to boot at 150.
Go to 'Tray frequency 4 and take it up to 166.7/33.3/166.7
I'm assuming in the above that you are using an Athlon of the 133/266 FSB persuasion here... if you're using a Duron you'll need to use the lower sets of matched numbers like 103/103, 107/107, 110, 112, 124.
Click 'OK', and reboot to temporarily 'lock' these frequencies into CPUCooL
Assuming you told CPUCool to start with every windows start, there should now be a new icon beside your clock in the system tray.
Right-click on it to open the Main Display
Right-click on it again, and then click the lowest "FSB: 137MHz"
What's CPUCool showing your processor speed at now?
Use either of WCPUID or SysID to verify, if you don't want to believe what CPUCool is showing you in the "Main Display" window?
(If you go into Display Options> This Display (Main Display)> Graphic display and check the box at lower left, it will graphically show the speed)
While you're in there, check whatever else you'd like to see graphically displayed.
WCPUID is available free here www.h-oda.com/
SysID is available free here www.sysid.subnet.dk/
Keep going up the FSB "string" in the little pop-up window that you to created until the comp 'locks' the moment you click on it.
When that happens, just unplug your computer and then Restart it and Bingo! You’re back to 133.
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