Das Gtx 1080 Ti FE test - frage.

[sew333]

Hallo. Frage:)

Das test 1080 Ti Fe -

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Geforce-GTX-1080-Ti-11G-Grafikkarte-265855/Tests/versus-Titan-X-1223287/2/

Fan speed default auto ? Temp limit default auto ? Oder erhöht?

Max86C
85C - fan 59%






https://s24.postimg.org/cqmpe1kzp/Geforce-_GTX-1080-_Ti-_Founders-_Edition-in-_NZXT-_Pha.png

Frage über den Test.

[Lowkey]

Hmm dein Satzbau ist lückenhaft, aber warum fragst du hier und nicht im PCGH Forum, da das deren Test ist?
Mit GPU-Z siehst du auch, was gerade limitiert und es sieht schöner aus. Auf dem Bild erkennt man nur schwer etwas.

[sew333]

Meine karte - 1080 TI FE stock.

Temperaturen limit - stock auto default 84C
Fan speed -auto stock
Power Limit - stock auto 100%

Und...


Meine karte manchmal die Last ( LOAD ) erreicht 87C zusammen mit fan auto speed 60% . Gpuz shows PWR LIMIT ( nicht zeigen Thermal limit ). Und keine Drosselung Uhren. Ist das normal?

Auf pc restarten ( reboot ) 83-84C max , fan max 50% and uhren drosselung.Ich verstehe nicht, diese

[kdvd]

@sew333

Don't use the Google Translater, you rather aks in english here, its better for all of us. :cool:

[Lowkey]

Also mit Powertarget auf Maximum wäre vermutlich die Temperatur das neue Limit.

Der Trick wäre es dann mit Strg-F im Afterburner eine Kurve zu erstellen, wo die Karte mit wenger Spannung den Takt hält, aber dann nicht mehr ins Powerlimit rennt.

Die Targettemperatur bzw. Lüfterkurve wird bei 90° liegen und dann in deren Abhängigkeit die Karte takten und den Lüfter regeln.

Neben dem Einstellen der Lüfterkurve und Taktkurve könnte man nur die Wärmeleitpaste auf der GPU durch bessere Paste ersetzen, falls kein Siegel an der Karte ist.

[sew333]

Sometimes temp limit stops working on my card,fan goes from 49% to 60% on auto, and temps goes as high 87C and there is not thrm throttling on clocks. Any ideas? Card is 1080 TI FE stock,no oc. No OC programs installed. Rebooting pc cure this. When i reboot pc 83-84C max ,clocks throttle and fan max 49%.

Ist das normal?

I tried on 378.92 and 382 drivers



OK ENGLISH now :) sorry for language


Card sometimes goes above temp limit which is 84C. Go to 87C and when i looking to GPUZ its showing PWR LIMIT ,not THRM LIMIT. Can somebody explain me this? PLEASE . Is this normal or not?

[Lowkey]

PWR LIMIT = 100% = 250 Watt

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3130/~/setting-power-management-mode-from-adaptive-to-maximum-performance

Set Power Limit to max: http://i.imgur.com/KjHyJcsl.jpg
(2nd bar)

[sew333]

OK thanks for reply. I cant understand. Default temp target limit : 84C .

Card sometimes go above temp limit 87C , fan auto 59% and no throttling on clocks.

[kdvd]

It sounds like the priority is on the power limit, not your temp limit.
What tool do you use? EVGA PrecisionX is user friendly to handle here.

https://img3.picload.org/image/rpiprcll/evgaprecisionx.jpg

[sew333]

I dont use any oc utilities. 0 programs. No afterburner,no precision,nothing. Only gpuz,cpuz,fraps,steam. :)

Card sometimes going above temp limit to 87C without throttling :).
Gpuz shows PWR LIMIT ,not THRM LIMIT.

I must restart pc to make again 83-84C max. Maybe driver bug? I tried on 378.69 drivers and 382.05

[kdvd]

If there is no notice of THRM LIMIT at all, i assume the driver has its priorty in the PWR LIMIT in that moment.
Im not sure, but it looks like a bug, since i also think either limit should treated equaly by default in the driver.

[sew333]

Somebody said that this can be caused by faulty card or controller. Maybe i have faulty card ?
But i met other user with 1080 TI FE and he have the same issue. Reboot fixing this. After pc reboot 83-84C max temps and throttling THRM LIMIT .

[N0rG]

I had the same thing happening with my card once. As you described it the temperature suddenly goes past 84°C and the fanspeed goes up. In my case the GPU clockspeed went up too, from ~1600 to 1835 MHz. I was playing Ghost Recon Wildlands when this happened. At 1600 MHz and 84°C the card used about 65% of its TDP. With 1835 MHz and 88°C it was at 100% TDP.

i asked here in the forum back than, but no one answered so i guess this is a quite rare problem. I dont know why the card does it but it seems that it is ignoring the temperature limit all the sudden and using the powerlimit instead.

[sew333]

Temperature suddenly goes past 84°C to 85C and the fanspeed goes up.

Gpuz shows Pwr Limit,instead of thermal limit.

When i reboot pc 83-84C max again ,clocks throttle and fan max 49%.

[Darkseth]

For Founder's Edition users i would not really recommend doing much overclocking.
You will never feel those 2-3% performance.

Instead, fight the temperatures with Undervolting.

Try 0.8 Volt, and look how far you can go. Probably 1700-1750 Mhz?!
Less Voltage = MUCH less heat = it won't reach 83+ °C, = it won't throttle.

Which means: Even if you undervolted AND downclocked, you might be able to have a higher Boost Clock, because it doesn't throttle.

If you have it at Stock, what Core Clock do you have while Gaming? At 85°C, the Clocks probably go down to 1650 Mhz?
I bet, you can have that stable with only 0.8 Volt, and probably <78°C easy.

Or 0.9 Volt with 1800-1900 Mhz?

At least with Undervolting you WILL be able to hit lower temperatures, lower Power consumption AND higher clocks all at the same time.

it's just like that with a GTX 1080 Founder's, which is only a 180 Watt card.
With a 250w 1080 ti the effect will be bigger.
See here: https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=574892
The 1080 founder's hits 83°C limit, and throttles do 1607 Mhz down.

With Undervolting he manages to get 1759 Mhz stable at only 0.8 Volt (my 1080 is at 1820~ Mhz there), and reduces Powerdraw from 180 watt down to 130 Watt.


Without Undervolting, a 1080 (ti) Founder's Edition will ALWAYS sit in the Temperature-Limit, and Throttle down.

[N0rG]

Without Undervolting, a 1080 (ti) Founder's Edition will ALWAYS sit in the Temperature-Limit, and Throttle down.

The problem sew333 has is that the card suddenly ignores the temperature-limit and starts boosting further until the power-limit is reached. I only had this happen once with my card before I watercooled it.

@ sew333
You could try undervolting as Darkseth mentioned... this won't solve the Problem but it would prevent the fan from getting too loud when it happens. Reducing the powerlimit (to ~80%) would have a similar effect but could reduce the performance a bit in some applications.

[sew333]

After rebooting pc , i am getting again 83-84C max temps ,fan 49% and gpuz THRM LIMIT instead of PWR LIMIT. Why after reboot ?

[N0rG]

could you please try restarting the application instead of rebooting the PC when this happens the next time? If that works too then it has maybe something to do with powerstates.

[sew333]

I dont have installed any oc utilities. No precision or afterburner. All is stock default. So its totally random. To get again 83-84C max temps ,fan 49% and gpuz THRM LIMIT instead of PWR LIMIT i must reboot pc or wait idle 10 minutes in windows desktop. Any ideas :) ?

[N0rG]

sorry I have no more ideas. Make sure you have the latest drivers... maybe this bug gets fixed in the future.

[hq-hq]

I dont have installed any oc utilities. No precision or afterburner. All is stock default. So its totally random. To get again 83-84C max temps ,fan 49% and gpuz THRM LIMIT instead of PWR LIMIT i must reboot pc or wait idle 10 minutes in windows desktop. Any ideas :) ?

workaround: install afterburner, save a profile for system start and maybe your prob is solved...

[sew333]

The temp limit is default at 84. I thought at the default setting the fan is targeted at 50% and the card would start throttling once it hits 84c so it wouldn't go past the temp limit of 84. But in my experience it goes past that limit from time to time and the fan would spin at 60-65%. Is this normal? Again this is at default setting with nothing overclocked. Going past the temp limit hitting 85-86c ( without throttling , gpuz shows VREL or PWR limit instead of THRM ) with loud fan noise is worrisome. I'm not sure if this is a driver problem or this is normal.

[hq-hq]

The temp limit is default at 84. I thought at the default setting the fan is targeted at 50% and the card would start throttling once it hits 84c so it wouldn't go past the temp limit of 84. But in my experience it goes past that limit from time to time and the fan would spin at 60-65%. Is this normal? Again this is at default setting with nothing overclocked. Going past the temp limit hitting 85-86c ( without throttling , gpuz shows VREL or PWR limit instead of THRM ) with loud fan noise is worrisome. I'm not sure if this is a driver problem or this is normal.

don't have the 1080Ti FE...

you can try the options in power management mode, maybe it will help

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3130/~/setting-power-management-mode-from-adaptive-to-maximum-performance

IMHO behavior of your card is NOT normal....

[sew333]

As i said, after reboot the card maxed out at 83°C under same conditions. WoW at 200% renderscale, 3DMark and Overwatch.
I checked my GPU-Z logs. The moment the card was at 87°C there was no temp limit warning, and the card was almost at full GPU boost speed, that's the thing that bothered me.
Same tests after reboot, the card was at 83°C and boost clock was lower and temp limit was reached.
That's why i am asking here what can cause that the card is ignroring the given thermal limit of 83°C.
Now my question is, what in the world was that ? Boost clock is controlled by driver, isn't it ? Maybe the driver went nuts.
i dont think it was an airflow issue. The card never reached 87°C even under maximum load at 4k resolution. It was the same Setup, i didn't change everything.
As i said, after reboot the card maxed out at 83°C under same conditions.